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Dammit - The art of Thornwolf
How on earth do people digitally paint in Photoshop? I've been sitting at my desk for 2 hours trying to figure out how to get that milky smoodgy look in Photoshop that oCe and Bastek do and I have NO fucking clue what I'm doing wrong!

I sure with they or someone of a similar technique would make a tutorial. This is incredibly frustrating. I want to get better but its like....I can't do it without mucho experimenting or being told basically how to do it.

Anyone have any suggestions? =/ Like what opacity/flow to have things on, do I start with a layer of a certain color? What?

Current Mood: frustrated frustrated

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ahkahna From: ahkahna Date: June 5th, 2006 11:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
The larger the size you work at the better quality you'll have with smoothness. I generally work between 300-400 dpi

Go to your brush presets (Brush on the top right of your menu), Brush tip Shape, and turn off the spacing. Play around with the hardness. This also uses less RAM and makes it easier to work faster (with some interesting effects!)
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: June 5th, 2006 11:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
Omg Ahk you totally fixed a problem for me that has been bugging me forever. Now I don't see a dot trail on my larger brushes! :D
ahkahna From: ahkahna Date: June 6th, 2006 12:51 am (UTC) (Link)
yay I helped :D
chlorophyta From: chlorophyta Date: June 6th, 2006 01:12 am (UTC) (Link)
Could you ellaborate a little on what turning off spacing does? It seems to be giving me some... odd results...
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: June 6th, 2006 01:14 am (UTC) (Link)
what kind of odd results?

When I did it it made it so that whenyou turn off the pressure sensitivity and you make a line you don't see this trail of perfectly rounded brush sizes lined up right overlapping each other, so its a smooth line instead of segmenty looking
chlorophyta From: chlorophyta Date: June 6th, 2006 01:20 am (UTC) (Link)
Really? I just got a series of like dots- not overlapping or anything, very strange. I don't know if I've got some kind of setting on that's just completely screwing with that or what. 0_o
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: June 6th, 2006 01:21 am (UTC) (Link)
that happened to me too. Turn off your pressure sensitivity and see what happens.
chlorophyta From: chlorophyta Date: June 6th, 2006 01:41 am (UTC) (Link)

Here's the results I'm getting. I've tried turning off all the different pressure sensitive things, but I can't find where I might have an option to turn off all pressure sensitivity...

But I can't really understand how not having pressure sensitivity would make anything easier. =P
ahkahna From: ahkahna Date: June 6th, 2006 01:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
It just keeps the computer from eating so much ram, especially when using the blending tool. You can use a normal brush for coloring, just change the settings for the blender. The harder you push on your stylus the less you'll have to worry about those crazy dots.

I used that system for this picture a while back: http://www.deviantart.com/view/27543209/

Just something you have to play with. A friend of mine showed it to me :P
chlorophyta From: chlorophyta Date: June 6th, 2006 01:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
*nods* Well, I definately want to play around with it, but it might take a little getting used-to, since it's -very- different from the way I'm used to working. I'm never object to learning new tricks, though, there have been plenty of things like that that I heard about and never really used at all for a couple months or years and then one day it would just kind of -click- into place. Like, Oh! That's how I can do -that-.

Maybe I'm just a freak. 0_o
kitsuken From: kitsuken Date: June 7th, 2006 05:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm the same actually. Sit for ages trying to get something right then come back to it a couple of days later and after 5 mins it clicks and things work

Then there's something else wrong that needs fixed :p

Another trick that can come in handy, if you don't quite like the colours in a particular area of your painting (shadows, highlights, etc) you can go to Image>Adjustments>Variations and change the colours around, getting to see previews in teh process. Wish I could remember who it was posted it as a tutorial, there example showed how useful it could be (changed warm shadows to cool ones to fit the piece better)
kitsuken From: kitsuken Date: June 7th, 2006 12:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
Instead of turning it off try turning it to 1%. Eats more ram, but you get no spotting at all (I think it means it puts down another circle every 1% of the diameter of the circle, so with a 100px brush it'd put one down every pixel, meaning you get complete smoothness)
idess From: idess Date: June 5th, 2006 11:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hmmm... Im not good at this stuff much either, though I do have PS x) I suggest starting with dark colors first with a slightly low opacity and a large brush. Eventually start going into smaller brushes, lighter colors, and more detail. It seems to work for most; I watch my friend Neon (neonja.deviantart.com) do it a lot, and also tutorials by ox-of-ice and such help ^^
maggock From: maggock Date: June 5th, 2006 11:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wellll she's not oCe or Bastek, but this artist has a tutorial on smooth blending in PS: www.furiae.com (among others.)
xxbalaaxx From: xxbalaaxx Date: June 6th, 2006 12:49 am (UTC) (Link)
Love that gal's work..so much rich yummy soft coloring! *eats it up* thank ya for the linkie, having a blast reading her tutorials.
ashendon From: ashendon Date: June 6th, 2006 12:10 am (UTC) (Link)
Ooh you can't color either? We should learn together! All of my work up to this point has been linework and coloring has been something I've been wanting to do for awhile.
From: astolpho Date: June 6th, 2006 12:42 am (UTC) (Link)
My favorite thing to do is to turn off size/shape dynamics completely and just work with the tablet pressure sensitivity driving opacity dynamics and nothing else. It forces you to be sloppy.

Also, and you may already know this, but if you have the paintbrush tool active and you hold down the alt key, it will turn into the eyedropper tool until you release it. It's very handy for creating very smooth blends and mixing colors that are already there.
chlorophyta From: chlorophyta Date: June 6th, 2006 01:17 am (UTC) (Link)
I have to agree with using the eyedropper shortcut- If you don't use this already, Thorn, you should definately play with it. =) When I'm painting in photoshop, I usually hold my left hand over the alt and space keys. Makes life so much easier to just be able to pick up colors you already have there.

So if you start out really loose and smoodgy, you can just lay down a whole bunch of color and then move the edges of your colors around. =)
From: dani_kitty Date: June 6th, 2006 02:08 am (UTC) (Link)

Where has this trick been all of my life?? ;.;
chlorophyta From: chlorophyta Date: June 6th, 2006 02:37 am (UTC) (Link)
I KNOW! 0_0

I felt the same way when I first found out about it, too!
From: distantembers Date: June 6th, 2006 10:14 am (UTC) (Link)
DITTO to that! ;.;
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chlorophyta From: chlorophyta Date: June 6th, 2006 12:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
If you press the spacebar while you're painting (or erasing, or, -I think- doing anything in PS), it turns into a hand, which you can use to grab your picture and move around without having to scroll or anything. =)
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xxbalaaxx From: xxbalaaxx Date: June 6th, 2006 12:49 am (UTC) (Link)
I have trouble getting a super smooth look in ps..lots of soft washes of color and the good old smudge tool. I'd like to learn Painter for that painted look...though I've seen 'painted' looking work pulled off beautifully in PS..which baffles me. PS seems to be one of those programs that can accomplish a variety of styles, the only problem is figuring out a series of steps to follow to the desired affect you are seeking...and that just takes time..practice and lotsa experimenting with the tools!

I'm not super duper knowledgeable with PS but if ya ever wanna ask me anything, feel free..I'd be happy to give ya what advice I can.
spirit_of_kina From: spirit_of_kina Date: June 6th, 2006 05:07 am (UTC) (Link)
I got the pack!!!! *squee!*
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: June 6th, 2006 05:09 am (UTC) (Link)
So glad!
gnistra From: gnistra Date: June 6th, 2006 07:43 am (UTC) (Link)
I use a special type of brush I downloaded from here: http://www.tascha.ch/
She also has a tutorial on how to blend colors that might be helpful: http://www.tascha.ch/?page_id=60
chlorophyta From: chlorophyta Date: June 6th, 2006 12:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
She mentions Edges at the end of the tutorial! Excellent! Thorn, that's what I was talking about! She manages to get the point across in just a few words, rather than my rambling nonsense for an hour. 0_0
bastek From: bastek Date: June 6th, 2006 01:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
Those tutorials basicly explain everything that I do to make my art look the way it does, and she explains it much better than I ever could XP
spirit_of_kina From: spirit_of_kina Date: June 7th, 2006 07:38 am (UTC) (Link)

thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: June 7th, 2006 03:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
ROFL!!!! Omg thanks so much that made my day XD Did you name him?
spirit_of_kina From: spirit_of_kina Date: June 7th, 2006 08:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
Made him a her, and named her Sheeba.. She even has her own tiny collar and heart shaped tag that has her name on it.. Sheeba was the wolf hybrid my mom owned when she was preggo with me.
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