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Pirates of the Macaribbean
Okay this is /potentially/ a slightly unethical question but what would you recommend for music downloads for a Mac? LimeWire? I've been wanting to get the paid version anyways after seeing the benefits, but I don't even know if LimeWire works on macs. I should probably just break down and use iTunes (it skeers me! I avoid it like the plague, I don't know why...mac interfaces and programs still make me nervous).

But most importantly, does soulseek work on Macs? I /love/ that program and I use it for my more obscure foreign tracks when I can't find/download/purchase them elsewhere (mostly German neofolk, omg geek geek geek out with trufflehog)

Also while we're at it, if I have a song on my iTunes but I want to turn it into an MP3, how do I go about doing that? Is there a way to do it? I know there must be...

So, input input input? My iPod is lonely.

Current Mood: blah blah
Current Music: The Whitest Boy Alive - Fireworks

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ksilebo From: ksilebo Date: April 7th, 2008 04:29 am (UTC) (Link)
tigrin From: tigrin Date: April 7th, 2008 04:41 am (UTC) (Link)
I have the free version of Limewire and I'm on a Mac. It works alright as long as I'm looking for a relatively popular song.

To convert a file in iTunes to MP3:
Go to iTunes >> Preferences >> Advanced >> Importing, and change to Import Using: MP3 Encoder.
You can then click on a file in your library, go to Advanced and choose to Convert Selection to an MP3.
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: April 7th, 2008 04:43 am (UTC) (Link)
Many thanks! And doing this will in turn let me share a song previously from my itunes with someone else should I wish to?
tigrin From: tigrin Date: April 7th, 2008 04:46 am (UTC) (Link)
I haven't tried it myself but I heard if you bought the song through iTunes, it doesn't work. but it should work with things you've added to your library or imported off of CDs.
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: April 7th, 2008 04:48 am (UTC) (Link)
ah thats the trick, some things I'd like to purchase from itunes, but maybe send to my boyfriend who doesn't have/use itunes. Hrm. I've heard theres a way to do that...not sure.

skorzy From: skorzy Date: April 7th, 2008 05:06 am (UTC) (Link)
There's been a long used trick for removing DRM (copy protection) from songs purchased from iTunes. You make a new playlist, name it as the album you want to unprotect, drag the MP3s/AAC files to the playlist, then burn the playlist as a "audio CD" to a blank CD. Immediately after the burn is done, re-import the CD, answer "yes" to keeping the original files. You'll get duplicate copies of the song, the original copy which is a "m4p" protected, and a new copy that has the protection removed and will play on other's systems. Everything should be the same assuming you have the "get album artwork" and "get CD track names" checked on in preferences. If you want maximum compatibility, re-import the fresly burned CD as "MP3" files using at least 192kbps or "VBR" encoding. You can tweak how a CD is imported under iTunes preferences, 'advanced' tab, then 'burning' tab.
From: the_brad Date: April 7th, 2008 05:36 am (UTC) (Link)
That works, but it recompresses the music twice. Hymn used to just unlock the music, but newer versions of iTunes won't work with it (at least to my knowledge). You could also try playing the music from iTunes and then recording from stereo mix in an audio program and saving it as a lossless audio track. Your trick might work better still if she uses Apple Lossless, but then you waste a CD.
skorzy From: skorzy Date: April 7th, 2008 05:48 am (UTC) (Link)
Music you buy from iTunes is already "lossy", either at 128k or 256k compression compared to audio CD WAV files. If you burn iTunes-purchased music to a CD, then re-import music from that source, re-compressing it doesn't detract from the music anymore, unless you rip it at a smaller bitrate. Mind you, I'm specifically speaking about turning previously purchased M4P files (those purchased from iTunes) into a DRM-free format.

Hymn has been dead for several years now. I don't think its worked since iTunes 5. I miss it greatly, as the *only* way currently to remove DRM protection from your MP3/ACC files is the "burn/re-import" technique. It wastes a blank CD, yes, but..we're only talking about something that costs a dime.
From: the_brad Date: April 7th, 2008 05:57 am (UTC) (Link)
If you burn lossy audio to CD, and then import it again, even at the same bitrate, it is lossier still. It works the same way with all lossy data and compression; try double-compressing a JPEG at the same quality.

You're correct about Hymn. I stopped using iTunes until I started working for Apple, supporting it. I made the lossless import recommendation because then it's no worse, in quality, than the original.
From: the_brad Date: April 7th, 2008 05:37 am (UTC) (Link)
iTunes songs are typically assigned to a single account. If you authorize his computer to play the songs, he can play yours. You have a limit of 5 computer authorizations.
From: the_brad Date: April 7th, 2008 05:38 am (UTC) (Link)
I should also note that iTunes songs shared over any filesharing service are VERY traceable.
From: the_brad Date: April 7th, 2008 05:40 am (UTC) (Link)
LimeWire was originally for the Mac if I'm not mistaken. I recommend a normal BitTorrent client though, with encryption enabled. I just got a DMCA notice from Comcast today because I forgot to enable it with my new client. LimeWire tends to have hidden surprises, like RealPlayer.
sabarika From: sabarika Date: April 7th, 2008 11:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Doesn't Limewire give you adware/spyware? I downloaded BitTorrent forever ago but I stopped using it because I still have no antivirus program and figured I can't tell what's good and what's bad so nevermind. :D
From: the_brad Date: April 8th, 2008 09:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
I use uTorrent, which seems to be safe and lightweight.
ksilebo From: ksilebo Date: April 7th, 2008 05:46 am (UTC) (Link)
Limewire is horrible. I linked to SSX (Soulseek for Mac) up at the first post.
trufflehog From: trufflehog Date: April 7th, 2008 06:22 am (UTC) (Link)
awww i hope you can get soulseek :D
i'm on there as louvelex2.

for neofolk shenanigans, actually, i really recommend myspace music :]
keovi From: keovi Date: April 7th, 2008 06:41 am (UTC) (Link)
Personally, I'd just recommend using Transmission and torrent sites. Transmission is super lightweight, and free!
obliviousally From: obliviousally Date: April 7th, 2008 11:57 am (UTC) (Link)
I torrent everything. P2P programs like Limewire and Bearshare always left a bunch of bullshit files lingering around my computer in places I could never find them.
shockwave77598 From: shockwave77598 Date: April 7th, 2008 02:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
until AmazonMP3.com came online, I bought music from iTunes alot. And I pulled them into my MP3 library by burning a CD and ripping the CD. Imperfect solution in a lot of ways, but it worked and I have hardcopy CDs as backup should the computer lose everything.
From: the_brad Date: April 8th, 2008 09:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
Apple will replace all your iTunes bought music if you lose it.
justblieve From: justblieve Date: April 7th, 2008 03:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
I use yousendit_, ysi_leftovers, sharealbums

Less risk of getting caught/viruses
degaetus From: degaetus Date: April 8th, 2008 03:23 am (UTC) (Link)
If I knew how you felt about being ethically correct, I would've offered a key generator for ArtRage 2.5. :P
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