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Painter and Photoshop Question - The art of Thornwolf
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Painter and Photoshop Question
When I draw in painter 11 my colors are incredibly muted. My blackest black is SOOOO not black. Is there a setting in Painter to adjust the colors?

That said, when I import something from painter into photoshop, the file that pops up is infinitely more vibrant, all on its own without me setting the colors at all, but when I save it from photoshop, it goes back to being muted if I open it up in any other program.

I haven't had this problem with any scanned in images, just things I've done in painter and imported into photoshop.

Plz help? D: It's really annoying. I used to have this problem in Photoshop CS3 with everything I save out of Photoshop, regardless of how it was originally imported or if it was drawn in photoshop, being incredibly dull and muted, but now that I have CS4 I haven't had this problem until I tried to tweak something I imported as a PSD from painter.

The way I've managed to go around this is to open the file outside of photoshop into Preview, screengrab it, take it BACK into photoshop, tweak the colors, and save, but that's really round about and I shouldn't have to do that.

For the record, this is Photoshop CS4 on Mac/Snow Leopard

For the record these are the two images I'm seeing:

What Painter sees (some parts of that are blackest black apparently) and also what it looks like if I save it in photoshop and open it or upload it anywhere else:
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What it looks like when I first open it from photoshop from painter, and what I want it to look like:
Photobucket
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thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: February 24th, 2010 05:32 am (UTC) (Link)
How do I do that? o_O
techno4tomcats From: techno4tomcats Date: February 24th, 2010 05:56 am (UTC) (Link)
Canvas> Colour Management.
To deactivate entirely: Canvas > Assign Profile

I have it set to embed a CYMK profile and then when I bring it to Photoshop, the profile mismatch lets me choose if I want to keep the CYMK profile or ditch it to use PS's natural RGB profile. I save a dup file so I can mess with the colour. :3
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techno4tomcats From: techno4tomcats Date: February 24th, 2010 06:05 am (UTC) (Link)
RGB 1998 is okay and generally is a good default but it tends to poop on the more intense reds and that side of the colour spectrum.

thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: February 24th, 2010 06:35 am (UTC) (Link)
Ok that fixed it in painter, thank you SO much!
unciaa From: unciaa Date: February 24th, 2010 09:23 am (UTC) (Link)
Painter does it also? Bleh, and here I thought Photoshop (of old? I'd not used the current versions) was the only application trying to be too smart for its own good.
icywolfy From: icywolfy Date: February 25th, 2010 07:23 am (UTC) (Link)
Every graphics program should do it; It keeps the colours the same across OSes and Viewers (ie: IE8 should now respect colour profile and gamma settings in jpg files)

It's not that noticable if you properly colour calibrate your monitors (I use the pantone huey pro) and use sRGB profile (intended for monitor display, not print).

It's because people don't use the profiles that (before Snow Leopard) Mac images were much more faded than when viewed on Windows (gamma of 1.8 and 2.2 respectively)) If you embedded the profiles, they would appear the same.

[Technical reason is that 128 grey != 50% grey when displayed uncorrected; 186(ish) is a 50% grey on a standard windows box]

mythos_amante From: mythos_amante Date: February 24th, 2010 05:31 am (UTC) (Link)
Now that's just weird!
icywolfy From: icywolfy Date: February 25th, 2010 07:26 am (UTC) (Link)
Þorn, you have a (hardware) colour calibrator for your comp? If not, you should really try one, you'd be amazed how used you get to off colours on your work machine
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: February 25th, 2010 07:28 am (UTC) (Link)
No I don't, I'm seriously such a n00b when it comes to this sort of thing, i never knew such a thing existed.

And lol yay for you for using the right rune XD
icywolfy From: icywolfy Date: February 25th, 2010 09:15 am (UTC) (Link)
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OFC1YY
Well worth it.

If you wanna try out mine on a comp to see the difference on some unsuspecting computer, let me know, I'm up in Orange quite often these days (despite having things I should be doing instead ^^; )
icywolfy From: icywolfy Date: February 25th, 2010 09:19 am (UTC) (Link)
( Dispite not having done digital art in many a moon -- it does make watching NetFlix look a lot better ^^; )
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: February 25th, 2010 09:20 am (UTC) (Link)
interestingly enough I haven't been in orange in 3 weeks XD and I'm heading to FL for 3 weeks in march, but we want to do shabu again at the all you can eat place, we'll let you know and we'll get together and you can show me your computer magic :D
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