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Thorn are you a were or a fur?
Been getting that question a lot lately and ive been doing some thinking on the subject.
Here, ill give you a little insight:
-i draw furs AND weres. so my art classifies as "anthropomorphic art"
-i am part native american and enjoy the culture *though i do NOT agree in anyway that ALL weres should be Native American, in fact it flat out pisses me off..i just cant draw celtic stuff and do not have enough knowledge on other cultures, so thats why i lean more towards NA stuff ;) plus..its more /me/*
however i am also GERMAN and would like to start doing furs and weres with more of that cultural background. i just need to do more research.
-i act animalistic, growling, yipping, howling and murring. yet i also purr, and thats weird. but most of the time i act very canine. just ask my mate, he does the same exact thing. we look like were totally nuts when were together 0_o
-i express anger by growling and various emotions by acting like a canine, but i have done this all my life and my mom can vouch for it.its just the way i express myself. people who know me dont think anything of it, but if youre meeting me for the first time ill keep it down.
-i was made fun of in elementary school a LOT for acting the way i do, so like i said, if youre just gettig to know me IRL i most likely wont act it just to save face, but if im at a con or around other furs ill losen up after a bit and show my true colors
-i do NOT believe that i AM an animal that happens to be trapped in a human body. i just think im more in tune with primitive instincts, but those come out in animal form, which is probably why i also have such good intuition.
-i do NOT believe in P-Shifting. i think thats downright moronic.
- i do not have a "spiritual connection" with the animals or someshit.
i am a christian and believe as such *of course i do have my own weird opinions about things but if youre curious go ahead and ask me..*
-i DO however think that i have an understanding towards animals that some people lack and in turn they respect me as i respect them. plus im often seen talking to cats and dogs =P long story..
-someone once called me a "spiritual were". but that is FAR from what i am. like i said before..the word "spiritual" and "were" do not go together in /my/ little world that is myself. i do not believe in this "were" religion therianthropy is it? so by telling me im a spiritual were, you are telling me that i participate in that belief system. *well to me anyways*
-i do like wearing a tail and ears =)
-i am concious that i am a human. i am not a "hyooman eat-er" or whatever. as Goldenwolf put it, "proud to be human proud to be wolf".
i would not consider myself solely one or the other, and i have a happy mesh of the 2 personalities, but i AM in fact a human.

so in short, i do not want to label myself as a "were" because of all the spiritual/religious/sterotypes that go along with that label. in fact, if you had to call me anything were-ish, id be a "behavioral were" in the sense that i do act like an animal, but its just a branch of my personality. i do not /think/ i am an animal trapped in a human body.

as far as fur, i do feel that my attitude goes far beyond the "fandom", since my presonality is not a result of being a "fan of furries", its just who i am, and i happened to be lucky enough to find other people who enjoyed the kind of things i am into, but i do have a hard time finding people who act the way i do (which is also why i have so many were friends) When i say im a fur, most people view it as like being a Trekkie, but thats not it. Trekkies are fans of star trek, therefore they must think that Furs are fans of animals, but my whole deal goes far beyond that. like i said before, ive been this way all my life and was just lucky enough to find the fandom which i consider my niche now.
*sigh* so confusing...
I do not feel this way about furries/trekkies though so, i feel your pain. its kinda hard to explain things to a mundane.

i, personally, use the term "fur" to generalize people who have a special fondness for animals and act more like them etc etc..and that classifies both weres and furries alike.

so if you ask me, i will say i am a "Fur" as a general term, but now you know what i mean when i say that, because in actuality, im sorta..well..both?

now for a survey about me and some stuff..

HEIGHT: 4'11"
HAIR COLOR: dark brown for now *it changes ever few months =P*
SKIN COLOR: light with a faint olive hue thats really sorta yellowish..jaundice!! lol jk
EYEBROWS: dark brown and thick. thank you dad for the generous hair/gene donation =P
EYE COLOR: light blue/green with dark blue rings
ABOUT EARS: not pierced cuz i dont want them to be.
ABOUT TONGUE: short but flexible. i can do that cool clover thing with it =3
ABOUT CHIN: smooth
SHOULDERS: slumpy now cuz im relaxing
MUSCLES: non existant =D
STYLE: i-made-this-shirt-in-screenprinting + jeans of any sort + sandals or birkenstocks. very relaxed
PIERCINGS: hopefully nose on my 18th birthday
---Right Now---
WHAT COLOUR PANTS ARE YOU WEARING?: dark blue denim shorts
WHAT'S THE WEATHER LIKE?: perfect san diego weather, what else?
HOW ARE YOU?: good, thoughtful, talkin to Westly
---Do you...
GET MOTION SICKNESS?:didnt used to, but now i do if im on a long car ride and im in the backseat. i have to drive or be in the front seat now
HAVE A BAD HABIT?: nailbiting, forgetting important things, calling tavis in class, snorting when i laugh
LIKE TO DRIVE?: yep! =)
TV SHOW: simpsons, blind date, anything interesting on the discovery channel. I LOVE TO LEARN! =D *is a dork*
SHAMPOO: Ciao Bella. its from the salon down the street
CONDITIONER: see above.
BOOK: Dante's Inferno, In the Time of the Butterflies, The Little Prince
THING TO DO ON THE WEEKEND: hold a contest with myself to see if i can beat last weekends sleep record
BAND OR GROUP: theres a difference? Five Iron Frenzy, Bad Religion
HANGOUT: my living room
FEELING: loved
DOG BREED: Huskies, Malamutes, Aussie Shepherds and Border collies. basically any of the herding group and most of the working group. i wuff doggies!
---Have you...
BROKEN THE LAW: technically yes. a few times. but theyre those "shades of gray" things
RAN AWAY FROM HOME: tried. failed.
EVER CHEATED ON A TEST: actually no people cheat off me. dorks.
SNUCK OUT OF THE HOUSE: not my house.
EVER GONE SKINNY DIPPING: yes. its nice. thank god no one saw me though
MADE A PRANK PHONE CALL: yes. to my grandma *facedesks*. i was 7 okay?
EVER TIPPED OVER A PORTA POTTY: YES! i felt so bad. it was at this construction site and the workers were digging this hole and i dumped it over so everything spilled into the hole they dug. lol!
FELL ASLEEP IN THE SHOWER/BATH: no. fear of getting to comfortable and waking up under water.
BEEN IN A SCHOOL PLAY: yea. i was snoopy =)
CRIED IN PUBLIC: unfortunately yes. i hate it.
LET A FRIEND CRY ON YOUR SHOULDER: yea. got my shirt wet, but it felt nice to be helpful

GIRLFRIEND: Thorny dont swing that way
SEXUALITY: VERY Hetero. though Tavis sometimes thinks otherwise. "molests Amy"
CHILDREN: im waiting till im at least 26. i gotta have my fun.
TOO SHY?: no. ive actually asked out my fair share of guys. only got rejected once....later he threatened to kill me. but i got him back..MWAHAHAHAHA! *cops*
BEEN HURT?: yes. very badly i might add
WHO WAS YOUR FIRST BOYFRIEND/GIRLFRIEND: Chris...dont know how to pronounce his last name. it lasted 3 days. other than that, Branden
GONE OUT WITH A SOMEONE YOU ONLY KNEW FOR THREE DAYS: yep, Chris =D it was in 8th grade though and i was desperate. everyone hated me.

DO YOU HAVE A JOB: now i do. =P
IF YOU WERE A CRAYON, WHAT COLOUR WOULD YOU BE?: sky blue or timberwolf gray. mmmmm..gray..
WHAT'S THE NEXT CD YOU'RE GONNA GET?: i havent thought of it yet. i havent bought a cd in forever. people usually get them for me *hugs the Clerks CD tav bought her*
WHO DO YOU CONSIDER GOOD FRIENDS?: anyone who, after i do LOADS of stuff for them, never hesitates to be there for me when i need them, as opposed to others who have used me and abused me in the past. also anyone who doesnt judge me. thats a big one, cuz after all im weird. =P WHAT DO YOU LIKE TO DO?: draw, chew on Tavis, talk online, watch Kevin Smith and Tim Burton movies
HOW DO YOU WANT TO DIE?: having seen my grandchildren, in my sleep, and before Tavis, *nanner nanner*
---When/what was the last...---
TIME YOU CRIED?: St. Patricks day
YOU GOT A REAL LETTER?: i never get letters. i just get checks with letters. who mails anyone anymore?!
YOU GOT E-MAIL: 2 seconds ago
THING YOU PURCHASED: my prom dress
---Your thoughts on...---
ABORTION: against it. learn to use protection you stupid inner city fucks. in the case of rape or if its not safe for the mother, well then thats a different story
TEENAGE SMOKING: very against it. they hook you young
PMS: i hate it
SPICE GIRLS: just another group of bad roll models for underage kids
PREMARITAL SEX: if youre gonna do it, be responsible..you stupid inner city fucks! *sorry, we have a lot of stupid people around here*
DREAMS: can come true if you dont sit on your butt and expect them to happen without you doing your part

Current Mood: thoughtful thoughtful

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alex_to_you From: alex_to_you Date: March 22nd, 2003 09:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
Altho i prolly dont, well i know i dont, understand it all exaclty as well as you do, i do kinda understand what u're saying... lol i dont think im making sense... lol. so i'll stop now... but im stealing ur survey haha. wow im tired, and i only worked 5 hours today... during summer its gonna be 8 hours a die *thud* and congrats about off the grill! YAY, but that guy is still a jerk.
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: March 22nd, 2003 09:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
*snugs* sok. its kinda complicated and its even harder to understand when its written in my journal. *i tend to ramble* but if you have any questions, please ask me =) besides, YOU know i act like an animal and that Travis does the same thing.*though sometimes i wonder if he started doing it cuz of me...ah well*
its contagious. join us Amy..JOIN US! *blarg blarg* BRAINS!
vekke From: vekke Date: March 22nd, 2003 09:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
You know, that's almost exactly how I feel (except I feel more like a doglike human than a wolflike one =D)

and . . . People actually -believe- in P-shifting? oy. =P
pinkpuppybelly From: pinkpuppybelly Date: March 22nd, 2003 09:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
What's P-shifting?
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: March 22nd, 2003 10:07 pm (UTC) (Link)


its a belief that people can actually turn into their were animals. for example:
"im a werewolf and every full moon i p-shift into a wolf and eat people!"
the P stands for "physical".
here..i made a comic about it..
redcoatcat From: redcoatcat Date: March 22nd, 2003 10:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
I do feel the same way.
Though I do frame that my connection with cats is a slightly spirtual one. But like everything there is the reality and beyond reality verson of things. I indeed am HUMAN, I enjoy being HUMAN, I enjoy other HUMANS. Just by fates playing their cards I feel I have a deep bond which _I_ perceive as spirtual with cats.

Funny thing in alot of my fiction I evole around the theme that man is a creature seeking greatness. There for anything it does is eltie. As Beast is a animal by tradition and excepts its place, wolf belives it is no greatter then the stag it feeds apon. Thus making opposites balence needs
So to ME veiwing oneself as higher or elite to other HUMANS is a more HUMAN thing to do.

But again this is veiws taken from my crazy ass fiction I write.

But back onto top. I lothe lables. No one person can be THIISS or THAT.
I have people ask me Were, or Fur. I say "Whatever the hell makes you happy"
Considering my avatar character Trepas isn't even either in my books. *hes a dead floating french man with a cat skull* and people still call him a furry. But if it makes them happy to call a floating dead french man a furry...Go right ahead in their mind he is.

Blah I'm babbling non-sense here..


thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: March 22nd, 2003 10:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
very insightful Meezer, and i completely agree with you on the whole "viewing ones self as higher than other beings is actually being more human etc" and its very true. Ive met a lot of people who think humans should die and are horrible for what they do to the earth, as they jump in their parents SUV's and throw away junk food wrappers. *rolls eyes*

by "spiritual" i mean in the religious sense, like "im religiously involved with my wereside". Though i do not scorn those who believe this, in fact im good friends with some, its just not for me, and they understand that. as far as other interperetations of "spiritual" goes i have a spiritual connection with wolves in the sense of thats probably why theyre my favorite animal. were "connected" in some way that appeals to me and sparks my interest, and i feel my attitude and actions are wolflike and have been told so. i guess my personality is part wolf, while my physical sense is not. but its not really on that serious of an extent. wow this is hard to explain.

disclaimer: i am not an animal. i like having thumbs
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: March 22nd, 2003 10:33 pm (UTC) (Link)

one more thing..

as far as Trepas goes, calling a skeletal being "furry" is like calling a yak "bald" =P
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