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Silent Bob reminds me of my Tavy Wav and now i miss him ...*snuggy snuggy kissy kissy!!*

can someone, preferably someone who has seen Dogma more than one time, answer this question? :

why is it that although the muses have met god, they refer to God as a HER, while the voice of god refers to him as a HIM and gets a little aggravated that they refer to God as female after the woods scene with Bethany crying right before they go see cardinal Glick, though at the end of the movie, God is played by Alannis Morisette??? that always confused me. are they trying to represent that God is niether male nor female? even so, why wouldnt they just say that, and why would Metatron get so indignant about calling her female even though thats how she ended up appearing? *if you dont count the NJ bum*

just a thought....Timber im lookin' at you...any thoughts?

Current Mood: curious curious
Current Music: Dogma - Cardinal Glick speaking

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zekiwolf From: zekiwolf Date: September 9th, 2003 05:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
@_@ I love that movie... Anyway, I think Metatron is just a bit more by-the-book then all the others, and everything they do seems to aggravate him anyway. XD; It's fairly likely, though, that the point IS that god is neither male nor female... Since very little in Dogma was what the Bible said it was, I guess they were just going with the flow. >_>; That and, hey, it's Kevin Smith, who needs a reason?
likeshine From: likeshine Date: September 9th, 2003 05:44 pm (UTC) (Link)

i think kevin smith was insinuating that god is what you make of him. her. either.

:)
dravalen From: dravalen Date: September 9th, 2003 10:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
Probably, I always saw it as they were kinda mocking people who said it was one certain way. Then again there is Bruce Almight with Morgan Freeman playing God.
corellian_ninja From: corellian_ninja Date: September 9th, 2003 05:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
Also, I think they kept blathering on about what a great sense of humor God had...I dunno. It was funny to -me- to see Alannis as God. But I'm leaning towards the neither male nor female. God can be *dum dum duuum..* Anything.
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 9th, 2003 07:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree. On earth in physical form God has to choose a gender, but while in heaven God's form is 'in the eye of the beholder', so to speak. But that's just my guess.

And Metatron just seems perpetually disgruntled, heheh. Gotta love Alan Rickman.

~ anonymousbosch
freakachu420 From: freakachu420 Date: September 9th, 2003 11:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree with the other posters that the general idea of what they are tryig to express is that God is androgynous. I think that they laid emphasis on the "female" side of God because so many people think God is male, that they have to BEAT INTO PEOPLE'S HEADS the female idea just to get "neither male nor female" across.
dravalen From: dravalen Date: September 10th, 2003 12:56 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, that could also be attributed to the fact that most people consider women the more nuturing of the two sex.

Ack, I can't belive I just said that(Someone please tell me I'm not a sexist).
freakachu420 From: freakachu420 Date: September 10th, 2003 01:09 am (UTC) (Link)
SEXIST!! ;D
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thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: September 11th, 2003 09:41 am (UTC) (Link)
well, in the bible, the angels who do god's most important jobs are male..so...though hes a prissy male,it doesnt surprise me that he was chosen as the voice of God.

a LOT of religious people got very angry at this movie and even tried to get it banned altogether. i watched in my Civics class this tape on "free speech" and kevin smith was on there pleading his case that Dogma was not meant to rile anyone up, its just a movie and a lot of it is opinion.

what i find really amazing is that my mom, who is super-religious, bought Dogma for me on DVD for EASTER! ..is it a sign of the apocolypse? mebbe 0_o hee hee
dunder From: dunder Date: September 10th, 2003 08:35 am (UTC) (Link)
I believe it just has to do with the fact that they were trying to say that God is neither a he or a she, but rather we all have our views of what "it" should be. While the Bible itself referrs to God as a "he", it was originally written by a man, and thus the man gave God the title that he saw fit. Just as when men or women referr to a dog, or something, we may just call it a "he" or a "she" out of habit for our own sex. In which case, in the movie, the muses are females, and thus refer to God as a "she". The Voice of God is a male, and thus refers to God as a "he".

As for Alannis playing the role of God... I think it had to do with the fact that fact that we were revolving around Bethany's point-of-view, and thus God was portrayed as a she.

Buuuuuut.... that's just the fox's opinion. ;)
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