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Tech Geek Question
Ok guys. I'm posting this here cuz I'm super retarded when it comes to computers and the internet and all that. I only use my comp for drawing, the occasional gaming and maybe a research paper or two, and the net for feeding my addiction. So, I need some help, but please, go easy on the computer tech lingo as when I say I'm computarded, I mean it. o_O

Here's the situation:

I still don't have internet and have been using the comp at my mom's apartment to update. She lives in the apartment next door to mine. She has DSL, I think wireless through the cable company. She suggested maybe we get some sort of wireless thing hooked up so I can piggy back on her internet connection from next door.

Dad gave me a brand spankin' new router in a box complete with instructions and installation software. The box says: "Microsoft Broadband Networking Wireless -G Base Station".

I read the instructions on how to set it up and they seem pretty straight forward but I'm still kinda stupid.

The instructions say I need a computer that is connected with an Ethernet cable to my broadband modem. This is true already (I'm assuming) as there is a yellow cord coming from the back of the computer to the modem that says "Ethernet" ;P

Then it asks me if I have an existing router and want to set up this base station as an access point. What does this mean? I want to have a wireless connection from my apartment next door with my mom's computer as the source. Which computer do I do the setup wizard on, place the base station at, and follow all the instructions on?

I feel dumb ;P Throw tomatoes when ready.

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From: battie42 Date: November 4th, 2005 01:27 am (UTC) (Link)
If I'm remembering correctly, I believe you'll do the setup on your mom's computer (or which ever one is hooked up to the modem). You will move the yellow cable from the computer to the wireless router. Then you will plug an identical cable from the router into the computer. The appropriate ports on the router should all be marked ("uplink" goes into the modem, I believe).

I'm pretty sure you don't want to have it set up as an access point. If she has cable then she probably only has one IP address, which means that only one computer can be on the Internet at one time. If it's set up as a router, then the router will take that single IP and create a private network with IP address that it will assign itself. If you use it as an access point, then you will need to buy a second IP address.*

I use that very same router at home and I remember the directions being pretty clear (and my dad and I had no clue what we were doing then). If you can get it set up this far then you should find the setup stuff very helpful.

I hope all this is right; it's been a while since I've set up something like this.

*The cable company has no problem with people using routers, if you're wondering. I have no idea why this would be since you'd otherwise have to pay them for a second IP addres, but I'm not going to complain.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 4th, 2005 01:58 am (UTC) (Link)

partly correct

Computer IT support is my specialty so....lets see for one thing even if there is only one IP addy. you can both use the same connection by setting up Internet Connection Sharing on your moms computer and the other Router thats hooked to YOUR system if i remember SHOULD be configged as an access point...ill look into it since its been a while though
-Kit_Kitsune (e-mail me for any other tech crap too lol)
P.S. Gift character design sheet greatly appreciated if i can ever help anyone with a problem or do some photoshop editing for them ;)
darkstar59102 From: darkstar59102 Date: November 4th, 2005 02:03 am (UTC) (Link)
What you really need is a wireless modem that goes IN your computer. The thing your dad gave you is called a base station or an access point. It is what the hard line or out side line from the service provider (that your mom should have now)is connecting too to transmit the signal to your "wireless" modem that you need to get inside your computer.

I am a Cisco Certified Networking Professional, it is what I do for a living. If you have any other questions you can always email me.
casidhe From: casidhe Date: November 4th, 2005 02:10 am (UTC) (Link)
Okay... those instructions aren't the most helpful and WAY too complex and unecessary (The wizard that Microsoft has is a little too much)... So here's what to do.

1. Disconnect that yellow "Ethernet" cord from the computer and plug it into the wireless access point's "Modem Port."

2. Plug in the wireless access point into a power outlet.

3. There should be another "Ethernet" cable that came with the wireless access point. Take that cable and plug it into where you took the yellow "Ethernet" cable from the computer and plug the other end of that into any of the "Ethernet" ports in the back of the wireless access point.

4. With all the components powered up (modem, wireless access point, and computer) open up your browser on the computer and see if your homepage loads up. If it does, good job... It is working like it should. If it isn't you'll have to go into the wireless access point's settings and change them... You may have to use the wizard at this point.

How the whole setup should be is...

Broadband modem -->> (connected to) Wireless Access Point -->> Mom's Computer

You first have to make sure this setup works and then make sure that you can get wireless with your computer then.

IM (wailingwolf04)me (if possible) or call me if you need help. (805-886-9729)
altonwings From: altonwings Date: November 4th, 2005 02:31 am (UTC) (Link)

Why do people make this so complicated? Hold the new connection above your head chanting in Nepalese to the God Ra while facing east towards Manchuria (where the God Ra makes his cold-weather home) and dancing barefoot in the ashes of fruitcakes from years past.

When complete, just pray to the Tech Monkey God and plug in some wires and yer done. Everything else people tell you is just complicated hullabaloo.
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: November 4th, 2005 02:37 am (UTC) (Link)
I knew this would happen. I would get like..a bajillion responses that are just as helpful as the last but still no definite answer. ;__;

Step by step stuff helps more than "lingo" really. Even "that blue cord thingy" makes more sense to me than some stuff mentioned. I'm going to try to sort through these things I guess.
altonwings From: altonwings Date: November 4th, 2005 02:46 am (UTC) (Link)
Have an IM? I don't do tech talk, but I'd be more than happy to walk you through it a bit. The tech folks certainly know more than I do, but I know real-world terms.
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: November 4th, 2005 02:49 am (UTC) (Link)
Sure but its private, what's your e-mail and I'll e-mail you the name. =)
altonwings From: altonwings Date: November 4th, 2005 02:51 am (UTC) (Link)
It's all in my profile, but depending what you use: Altonwings on AIM, Sir_Cache on Yahoo. Just give me a hollar on one of those, and I'll respect your privacy on that.
wolflahti From: wolflahti Date: November 4th, 2005 03:56 am (UTC) (Link)
Hey, don't feel stupid. Back in the old days of hobby computing (when people actually had to know something to use one of these magic boxes), I designed and built my own Z80-based system.

But when it comes to wireless, I'm lost. Completely. Even with a Mac, which is like - plug in this wire and you're done.

There's just something about this wireless crap that completely short-circuits all understanding.
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