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A notice about price changes on winged characters
I totally didnt think it would come to this but recent requests for winged characters has left me feeling that charging the same price for a winged character as a normal character leaves me losing a quite a bit of time and money. The reason for this is, when I draw wings, its about as complex as drawing an additional character, therefore twice as time consuming, that and the fact that I dont particularly like drawing them if I can help it. Sure I put effort into it, I usually like the end result, but its the drawing them that puts a lot of strain on me.

So, as of this point on, I will be charging a "wing fee" for winged characters. This might seem unfair, but you would expect an artist to charge more for more detailed inks or to add a minimal background, its really the same amount of work for me.

Dont despair though, Im not charging the same price for an additional character, it will be significantly less than adding an additional character. It will just give me a bit of extra money for my time spent, sort of like if you were to pay someone at an hourly wage, they would make more money for more time spent on a project, same difference, and considering this currently is my only job for the time being, I really should be thinking about such things. The wing fee will vary from medium to medium, and for color peices would more than likely rely on the complexity of the pattern of the wing, for example a raven wing wouldn't cost nearly as much as a red tailed hawk wing and so forth, so please contact me ahead of time with your proposal and Ill work something out with you. If you havent figured out by now, Im fairly easy to negotiate with, so nothing has really changed in that regard.

Thanks for understanding =)

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kittomer From: kittomer Date: January 3rd, 2006 09:30 am (UTC) (Link)
Har. As tardy as "Wing fee" sounds, I can totally understand it. XD

Perhaps you should take a break from art and spend some quality time with the fuzzy thing that walks around over there?
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: January 3rd, 2006 09:36 am (UTC) (Link)
which, Silber or the various dust bunnies under the futon? :D

And yes of course, I fully intend to, but hes been working on commissions himself and truth be told, I really enjoy his presence at times rather than feeling like he has to constantly entertain me, its quite relaxing =)Yesterday for example we spent the entire day drawing and being lazy, it was wonderful!
kittomer From: kittomer Date: January 3rd, 2006 09:55 am (UTC) (Link)
Hehe, dust bunnies. But I think, by the now they are dust werewolves. :>

Glad you're feeling comfortable with Bigfoot. Perhaps you should never go back to the US? ;D

Did you see the coloring for the image of you two I finished yesterday?
eski From: eski Date: January 3rd, 2006 09:49 am (UTC) (Link)
hey, I think it's completely reasonable to charge some more for winged characters if you feel it is nessecary. Charging an absolute flat fee for character work can really get your screwed sometimes, I know now to lessen the price for simplistic characters and raise it a tad for uber complicated characters. Although, I'm glad to hear you're getting lots of winged character commissions, I can't wait to see them myself ^_^
kigeni From: kigeni Date: January 3rd, 2006 10:42 am (UTC) (Link)
Does this count for Avians with wing arms? o.0
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: January 3rd, 2006 12:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
yes unfortunately =/ A wings a wing really. They do take awhile, but it will be well worth it.
From: blueotter Date: January 3rd, 2006 01:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
Completely understandable. :)
doodlesthegreat From: doodlesthegreat Date: January 3rd, 2006 02:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
And yet, at KFC they charge less for wings. =};-3
westly From: westly Date: January 3rd, 2006 02:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
::Flap flap!::

I charge more for extra limbs, mostly because I *hate* hands. And heads. And...well...you know how it goes. ::Grins::
yaochi From: yaochi Date: January 3rd, 2006 04:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
So, headless characters cost ..... less ?
genmaicha From: genmaicha Date: January 3rd, 2006 03:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hmmm, what about a nonanthro critter with folded wings? It wouldn't be nearly as time-consuming as spread wings, or wings on the back of an anthro. Folded wings on a nonanthro tend to cover most of the back, anyway.

Just makin' sure you've got all the possibilities covered.
dinnercakes From: dinnercakes Date: January 3rd, 2006 04:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think it would depend on the angle. Because for me, getting folded and feathered wings to look "right" is much more difficult than drawing them extended. And they are all hard for me, which is why I don't have a winged character. In fact, a regular fox with nothing really special except a few sparklies here and there is as plain and easy as you can probably get. :3

A wing fee is a great idea! I really learn a lot about how this commission stuff works from this journal.
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: January 3rd, 2006 06:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
the thing is i dont really want to get into nitpicks on this. the less loopholes I have, the better. Wings = charge, thats the basics. Besides folded wings still indicate more drawing anyways.
genmaicha From: genmaicha Date: January 3rd, 2006 08:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
Fair 'nuff, just bringing it up here so that you've got it covered before a commissioner asks.
yaochi From: yaochi Date: January 3rd, 2006 04:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
OK, So

A winged anthro, on the cusp of the new moon at the edge of heavy surf, tangled in kelp, with land crabs attacking ......

And a crowd of tourists, from Japan, with cameras, taking pictures and pointing and gawking all of the while .....

As animal control roiis up with dart guns and nets

And Lewis Carroll quietly suns on the beach in a lounge chair ...
calicougar From: calicougar Date: January 3rd, 2006 05:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
here's five bux draw my kherubim plz ;D

seriously though, if it has a lot of extra limbs, I'd charge extra too. Slepnir is a complicated character! I've also been known to ask a bit more for inked or color black characters. Since it uses a lot more ink and I have to outline the black ink lines in white, it's like double the work.
vantid From: vantid Date: January 3rd, 2006 08:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Damn good idea. Wings are a bitch.
From: crowe_basalt Date: January 3rd, 2006 11:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
that's totally understandable. wings are a bitch.
brown_wolf From: brown_wolf Date: January 4th, 2006 05:35 am (UTC) (Link)
God forbid if you had to draw Shvia.
From: roofiekids Date: January 4th, 2006 11:16 am (UTC) (Link)
What about bats' wings? Just kind of wondering, since you seemed to be only talking about birds' wings.
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: January 4th, 2006 11:24 am (UTC) (Link)
good question but as i mentioned in another comment, its more a matter of drawing more, so i would still be drawing more if i were to draw bat wings, so it would be the same. so yes, i will charge for any wings
dragoncreator From: dragoncreator Date: January 5th, 2006 05:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
I totally hear you on this. Wings are a lot of work and since it's so monotonous with all of the feathers and what-have-you's it just feels like busy work when your almost done with a piece.
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