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I'm going to hate myself for this
I've been in a bit of an artistic funk as of lately and I haven't been able to draw much less feel like drawing, mostly because I don't feel like I'm living up to my potential with what I draw.

So tell me, what is something about my art that /bugs/ you that you wish I would fix? I won't be able to fix it unless I know what it is, so let me know. There's several artists who I wish would ask this question so I wouldn't seem like a total bitch just outright telling them so I'm giving you that opportunity now.

Oh and no flames please. There are ways to say these things without being outright nasty. =)
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From: duke_otterland Date: May 30th, 2006 05:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
I took a look at your Yerf archive and really don't know how your art could be better, since I already think it's pretty good. I certainly don't have those kinds of talents :P
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ruggels From: ruggels Date: May 30th, 2006 06:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
Sarge needs a well drawn motorcycle or Ford Crown Victoria cruiser. perspective practice would help, and you need to push some of your poses a little more, but generally you are in a good zone.

Scott
From: ex_noda654 Date: May 30th, 2006 06:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
lol you win
corvidophile From: corvidophile Date: May 30th, 2006 06:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
more ponies! more crows!

seriously, i can't really think of anything. i think you do great artwork! i love the more serious? realistic? artwork like the piece done for Dark Delusion, the lion you did with vantid, the badge for tascun, the Kings Mercy pic, and these ridiculously hawt dobbie pics
From: ex_noda654 Date: May 30th, 2006 06:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
more pictures of me gryphons! and dragons, especially if they're based off of a gecko or something neat. i love your canines, but i think you'd crank out some awesome mythics, vaaar-eye-eh-tee dearest!

not that i am one to talk, BUT!
vekke From: vekke Date: May 30th, 2006 06:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hmm.

I think it'd be interesting to see more scene-type stuff from you. I know that's not everyone's forte or thing they enjoy most, and you're far better at illustration and telling stories without backgrounds than I, or many people are WITH them, but when you do have characters in backgrounds, it looks amazing. :)

There really isn't anything about your art that bothers me, though. x) Maybe you could also draw more quadrupedal anthros or something? I dunno. Just off the top of my head. x)

Heh . . . it'd be cool if you could give me some pointers too. Since I could stand to improve. XD
wolvenillusion From: wolvenillusion Date: May 30th, 2006 06:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Off topic from the post, but I was just wondering. Did my payment for the lunchbox get to you safely? Just making sure. Somtimes our post office can royally screw things up. XD
wolvenillusion From: wolvenillusion Date: May 30th, 2006 06:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wait, *facepalm* I just saw the other entry you posted further down in my flist. Never mind. XD
From: kilojara Date: May 30th, 2006 08:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
I remember some of your digital work had a real airbrushy-ness about it, but it's a problem I have with alot of digital stuff. But the stuff you did in Painter was AWESOME. I think your "style" is better suited for that. :)
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: May 30th, 2006 08:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
I....haven't done anything in painter aside from that dragon collab I did with Vantid o_O Which pics are you talking about for reference? XD
From: frenchpresser Date: May 30th, 2006 09:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't think it's anything that bugs me so much as something I'd like to see you be able to do: epic.

I know you said you're not good at that sort of thing, but really, with your fascination for things like law enforcement, WW2 uniforms, and gladiators, I'm pretty damn sure you could do it and do it extremely well. It just takes a lot of looking at existing stories and mentally using ideas from them for your own ideas. Like, for Wyit's story, it started out as being inspired by certain songs I listened to in a certain order, most of which I've sent to you. That's where I got the ideas for the single images depicting these unnamed characters, places and situations that I had no idea what was going on in. Then when I realized I wanted to keep doing stuff with those characters, I went about with thinking up the actual story and plot. For that I drew inspiration from a few different books, games, movies and shows like Otherland, Avatar, Homeworld, and the old testament. I could probably explain more in depth later on if you want ;]
sickeleye From: sickeleye Date: May 30th, 2006 10:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
The thing that "bugs me" is your badges - I feel that most of the time you have a gorgeous portrait, then the words just slapped willy-nilly and awkward. I would suggest boning up on the basics of graphic design, and designing the badges with text in mind.

Something that I think could strengthen your work is to give context to your figures. Ex: http://www.deviantart.com/view/33289142/ <~~ Really nice sketch, but rendering the shadows on the ground caused by her would lend so much to her form, and lessen the severity of all the negative space. You have several *Very* nice pieces on your gallery (ex: http://www.deviantart.com/view/25191076/) that are nice graphics, that would be lovely in a book or along text, but as images themselves fall short of "Stand alone" illustrations. I suggest being more mindful of the negative space, and your picture plane.

All that said, I really miss your art on my friends page, so don't slump around too long >=| ... please o.O;
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: May 31st, 2006 11:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thank you, I'll be sure to keep that in mind. Granted I'm still getting the hang of composition, and I'm in with those people who hate drawing backgrounds even though thats a horrible mindset to be in. =)
bloodwolf666 From: bloodwolf666 Date: May 31st, 2006 12:58 am (UTC) (Link)
Bears and weres. Or better yet, werebears!

I really like the bears you drew in your sketchbook thing vol. 1. Maybe exploring with some different animals will help. I know whenever I feel slumpy, I draw an animal other than a canine and it usually pulls me right out of my slump.

jessidear84 From: jessidear84 Date: May 31st, 2006 03:16 am (UTC) (Link)
Seconded! =3
dragoncreator From: dragoncreator Date: May 31st, 2006 01:42 am (UTC) (Link)
Can I turn this into a Meme? I'd like to ask the same thing in my own journal. :) I don't feel I could emotionally handle one more person telling me I should work OUTSIDE THE BOX... but I wouldn't have to read the answers now...

I think... I dunno... I don't want to tell you WHAT to draw, cause I know it drives me crazy since I don't upload everything I do.

I would say above all else, you have potential for doing great textures, and your subject matter is originally highly textured. So work that fur, girl! :D
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: May 31st, 2006 11:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah you can =) Lots of people have already it seems.

This meme though isn't so much to ask what people want me to draw, but what I currently am doing with my artwork that needs to be fixed. I do draw what I want to draw, but that's not the point. Am I drawing arms really ugly? Am I drawing faces too girly when theyre on male figures?

Thought I should clear that up.
ungulata From: ungulata Date: May 31st, 2006 02:07 am (UTC) (Link)

Turning a new leaf

I went quickly through the top page of your Yerf gallery to refresh my memory, ignoring the badges (static pin-up/portraiture) and sketches. What leaps out at me is the lack of synergy of the body parts in your depictions. Limbs aren't following body-planes, faces are distorted by nose, jaws, foreheads and teeth all going in different directions, and limbs themselves are sometimes curved rather than articulated or are even disproportionate relative the body size or maturity (child's arm on adult werewolf). Objects tend to be flat, such as the strawberry (Berry Good) and the cardboard bison (Bestiary card). The Bestiary card also would greatly benefit if the horizon was moved up a bit, closer to the Third.

Most importantly, while there is some storytelling in some of your art, I get the impression that you do too many pin-ups/portraits and that you are failing to properly explore imagery where the majority of the action is disjunctive relative to the observer. That is to say, there is too much that is posed, too much "Hallmark Moment" in your art. There is not enough distance. I propose that you take a digital camera into a busy area and that you take hundreds of pictures were people are ignoring you and are concentrated on other people or tasks. You should find a few poses and actions that you could incorporate into an image that is engaging, balanced and storied.

Finally: experiment with colour. Seriously. And as one of eselgeist's teachers suggests, drop black from your pallet, because even black outlines suck the colour out of an image.
From: frenchpresser Date: May 31st, 2006 04:32 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Turning a new leaf

drop black from your pallet, because even black outlines suck the colour out of an image

Actually that is some of the worst coloring advice ever.












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spirit_of_kina From: spirit_of_kina Date: May 31st, 2006 02:39 am (UTC) (Link)
Oh hun when did you send that backpack? I havn't gotten it yet if you already sent it.
spirit_of_kina From: spirit_of_kina Date: May 31st, 2006 02:40 am (UTC) (Link)
Oh Oh! Draw some chubby seeeea crreeeetures!
spirit_of_kina From: spirit_of_kina Date: May 31st, 2006 02:42 am (UTC) (Link)
Ex my first comment.. Sorry I am tired out.. *hugs* How is everything for you foofy?
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: May 31st, 2006 02:43 am (UTC) (Link)
stressful.
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