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Ghost Rider
This is slowly turning into a "LOL check this shit out" journal rather than an art journal, but I saw Ghost Rider last night. My thoughts are under the cut. (SPOILERS)


It sucked. I mean...sucked. I like motorcycles, and I like dead things, but jesus...what a bad movie. I know its based on a comic book, granted one I haven't read. I should really pick one up and see what its about but even for a movie based on a comic book it was riddled, I mean RIDDLED with stupid catch phrases and scolding "ah ah ah you've been a naughty bad guy, I'ma gonna teach you a lesson we can ALL learn from" stuff. The bad guy and storyline surrounding the bad guys were weak.

Its like when people pitch their comic ideas to you (and ive been guilty of this) and it goes something like "Its a battle between good and evil where the devil wants control of this and this and SOULS and this and that, and its up to one man lalalala and i don't have the storyline quite worked out but they could make a movie out of this for the visuals alone, man! That's gonna be whats gonna carry it, the art! And the devil should have some whacked out Latin name that's not as obvious as "Satan" and be played by a Fonda cuz that will make it more epic (????!)"...it would only be more cliche if somewhere they had included a wise cracking but "loveable" comic relief character...(with a heart of gold...).

The voice of "Ghost Rider" was a cross between Vin Diesel in Iron Giant and Dr. Claw...that typical throaty "Suuu-perman", "ILL GET YOU GADGET" gutteral rumble with a vocabulary selection that could fit on a postage stamp thats waaaay overdone these days. Nothing against Iron Giant of course...that movie is boss.

The only cool thing about this movie is the motorcycle badassery and above all, Sam Elliott as the previous Cowboy Ghost Rider. But that part was majorly short lived!

its like "Im a caretaker of this graveyard and mysteriously know everything about being a Ghost Rider throughout this whole movie and you never question it but OH! I was one too! Lets ride! Hunununununun yeehaw oh wait i can only change one more time and I wasted it to ride through the desert with you all magestically to show off what CGI effects we could do within our budget but i have to go now before any fighting starts *disappears in puff of smoke*!"

While I'm like "HOOOYEAH COWBOY! uuh...what? Thats IT?"

That part is the only reason to see the movie, swear to GOD.



So yeah. NO! :(

I'm holding out for 300 Spartans.

Current Music: The Lake House - movie

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justblieve From: justblieve Date: February 20th, 2007 02:08 am (UTC) (Link)
Haven't seen Ghostrider, but Lake House = win
From: kilojara Date: February 20th, 2007 02:52 am (UTC) (Link)
Good thing I decided I'd rather spend my movie budget on Reno 911! Miami on Saturday.
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: February 20th, 2007 02:55 am (UTC) (Link)
Holy shit thats out already??? smokepaw tells such LIES!!! he told me it was gonna be out in march :(((((
From: kilojara Date: February 20th, 2007 03:02 am (UTC) (Link)
February 23. By Saturday I meant the one coming up.
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: February 20th, 2007 03:04 am (UTC) (Link)
im going with you. yes im inviting myself.

>:E
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: February 20th, 2007 03:05 am (UTC) (Link)
oh fuck im not going to be back yet. DUH!

Maybe I'll ask Smoke if he'll go with me. I'm already booking all of his time when I'm up there anyways. MIGHT AS WELL! HURH!
From: kilojara Date: February 20th, 2007 03:06 am (UTC) (Link)
I was about to say, "Back so soon?" ;P
smokepaw From: smokepaw Date: February 20th, 2007 09:11 am (UTC) (Link)
*hur-hur* Say whutz? I swear that the preview I saw said March!

Then again, I was not really paying much attention, having been caught walking through the room with a plate and glass in hand en-route to the kitchen and finding myself skidding to a stop to gawk. :P
calicougar From: calicougar Date: February 20th, 2007 02:58 am (UTC) (Link)
"Hunununununun yeehaw oh wait i can only change one more time and I wasted it to ride through the desert with you all magestically to show off what CGI effects we could do"

ROFL
chessapeaka From: chessapeaka Date: February 20th, 2007 03:07 am (UTC) (Link)
LOLZ, that's funny 'cause I saw it last night too.

I agree with you, except I enjoyed it because it seemed to me like it was purposely lame--I mean hell, how can you even MAKE a good movie about a motorcycle-riding flaming skeleton? Besides... I only went for the special effects, so I wasn't disappointed when there wasn't any plot... but yeah. Kickass flamin' chains.
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: February 20th, 2007 03:13 am (UTC) (Link)
oh yeah forgot to mention the chains. Its like "Hi we're demons from the netherworld and we are powered by the earth elements. Our only weakness: FLAMING CHAINS! NOOOOOO!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT! *ded*"

I can't believe after the first one died they didn't all team up and go "okay so here's this flaming skeleton, the worst he can do to us is whip us with his chain-o-death, lets..oh I dunno...stay out of its way. OH SNAP THAT CAME AS A COMPLETE SURPRISE HE HAS CHAINED ME TO DEATH!" ;/

But you're right. Along with the flaming skull and motorcycle I half expected a screaming eagle with an American flag clutched in its talons to burst onto the scene in an explosion of Mac trucks and busty women in wet bikinis.
smokepaw From: smokepaw Date: February 20th, 2007 09:13 am (UTC) (Link)
*blinks* Someone say wet bikinis?!

:D
doodlesthegreat From: doodlesthegreat Date: February 20th, 2007 04:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
Sounds like a Thomas Kinkade painting, if you ask me.
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: February 20th, 2007 04:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
needs more nuclear cottages.
kitsuken From: kitsuken Date: March 1st, 2007 04:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
so *that's* why his scenes always seem to have that glow about them. They're set in Chernobyl!
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: February 20th, 2007 03:16 am (UTC) (Link)
Oh yes..and the eagle has a featherless twin towers shaped scar neatly patterned on its chest. Naturally.

*puffs out chest* I should write for Hollywood.
doodlesthegreat From: doodlesthegreat Date: February 20th, 2007 04:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh yeah, that's Kinkade. =};-3
cesarin From: cesarin Date: February 20th, 2007 06:14 am (UTC) (Link)
you're the firsdt one out of 15 people in my friends list who said seen the movie and HATED it.. o_O
everyone loved it o_O
xxbalaaxx From: xxbalaaxx Date: February 20th, 2007 11:24 am (UTC) (Link)
deng and I was curious about that one..although I was worried it would suck because even the tv trailers have been full of 'oh lame cliche' crud.
xothia From: xothia Date: February 20th, 2007 12:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
Add starts: cool!

Effects: sweet!

*squints* uhm... Nicholas CAGE???!

SeriouslyWTF?!!?!BHDU@*&#^(!
loiosh_de_talto From: loiosh_de_talto Date: February 20th, 2007 01:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
What, a movie with a 1-year delayed release and -not- shown to critics is bad? Lies!
doodlesthegreat From: doodlesthegreat Date: February 20th, 2007 04:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
And released in February, AKA the studio's Tax Write-Off season? PERISH THE THOUGHT!
ultra_taboo From: ultra_taboo Date: February 20th, 2007 08:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
As soon as I saw flaming skulls, I knew to stay away...


Pan's Labyrinth instead thx
stokerbramwell From: stokerbramwell Date: February 22nd, 2007 12:36 am (UTC) (Link)
Sad thing is that the comics, from my recollection, aren't half bad. But I knew this one was doomed as soon as I saw that it came from the same writer/director as Daredevil and Elektra. Really, people should KNOW better than to hire this guy by now.

The name Mephistopheles, by the bye, comes from the Faust legend. It's not actually Latin; truth be told, no one really knows where it comes from. He just kind of appeared in Medieval demonology without any explanation. Kinda like Baphomet, although some people think that's a corruption of Mohammed.

...yes, I know way too much about this stuff. That's why I was so irked about their depiction of Abigor. The mythical Grand Duke of Hell, with sixty legions of demons at his command, and he's reduced to pissant elemental spirit Blackheart groupie.
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: February 22nd, 2007 12:44 am (UTC) (Link)
Ah yes I know it's not Latin, I was being facetious ;9
Although still "the devil" doesn't automatically make one think of Mephistopheles that's for sure, especially when the storyline takes place in Texas. But thank you for that tidbit of information, I honestly didn't know where the name came from.

The name Blackheart too though...good god. How uncreative is that?

I have to say as bad as Daredevil was I think this movie was worse, and you were wise to stay away. *makes some remark about "Electric Nachos" and trails off*
stokerbramwell From: stokerbramwell Date: February 22nd, 2007 02:12 am (UTC) (Link)
You can blame Marvel for the Faust. Or, rather, a meddling Marvel editor who wanted to remove religious references from the comic. In the original story, Johnny Blaze sold his soul to Satan--not Mephistopheles, Satan--and eventually Christ intervened Himself in order to give Johnny a second chance. The writer had intended for Johnny to convert to Christianity by the story's end, but the editor didn't like that. So it got retconned so that it wasn't really Satan, but Mephisto, an established Marvel villain dating back to the Silver Surfer. They retconned Christ out of it somehow too, but I don't know how they pulled that off. The movie decided to expand Mephisto's name back to Mephistopheles, thus bringing it full circle.

If you think the movie Blackheart is bad, you ought to see his original incarnation. Of course the comic version has one thing up on the movie: He's a monster, not a wannabe goth trying to pull off the badass look but only succeeding in looking like a wayward Eddie Munster.

And alas, I didn't stay away. I actually had to see it in order to review it for a movie review show at my college. I'm planning to post the text of my review to LJ sometime this Friday, along with a more in-depth analysis. So, yeah, I had to endure it too. It wasn't all that painful, as I didn't have high hopes to begin with, but it's one of those movies that just gets dumber the more you think back on it. Ugh.
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